Woodsy is back and so is Julian Williams' trainer, Stephen Breadman Edwards. Breadman has a great conversation about his fighter's recent bout, PED's in the fight game, and just over all wisdom.
Next is manager in the fight game, Rick Glaser. Rick is being inducted into the NY state boxing hall of fame and Woodsy congratulates him.
Wrapping up part one of EP 196, is the millennial wrap up with producer Andrew Cho. Cho shares the latest pop culture beef and tries to calm down Woodsy about the Stephen A-Joe Rogan debacle.